![]() Multi-reddit of ALL Tolkien Themed Subreddits!īelow are our general rules.Wondering what books there are to read? See /u/ebneter's great postįull list of All Past Reading Discussions and Other Posts of Note ![]() Please see our frequently asked questions. When Gandalf says (in "The Shadow of the Past") that "The Enemy still lacks one thing to cover all the lands in a second darkness" - this was the "first darkness".Welcome to r/tolkienfans! This subreddit is a space for the Tolkien nerds of reddit to debate and discuss the whole Tolkien mythos. The original stronghold of Evil was (as traditionally) in the North but as that had been destroyed, and was indeed under the sea, there had to be a new stronghold, far removed from the Valar, the Elves, and the sea-power of Númenor.Īlso remember that in the Second Age Sauron had completely overrun Middle-earth with the exception of this North-western region for most of that Age he had effectively "won". The West was where the remnants of the old Elven kingdoms were, it was visited by the Númenóreans, and the North-west in particular was the closest part of Middle-earth to Aman in the First and Second Ages, so Sauron is naturally going to expand in the opposite direction. Karen Wynn Fonstad's Atlas of Middle-earth builds on this map to provide more detailed world maps, but of course they're not based on anything else in Tolkien canon so take them with the appropriately sized grain of salt.ĭavid Day has also constructed his own maps in his own books, but his works are generally held in low regard.įor the second part of your question - why it's all subservient to Sauron - this is just a matter of geographic necessity. It also pre-dates Lord of the Rings, so you're not going to see anything you know from the LotR maps on it, and it's also necessary to question exactly how valid it might be in terms of later work (and also later Ages - this was pre-Drowning-of-Númenor and World-made-Round geography). However, and as you can see, this mapping was very basic, and shows no geographical features aside from coastlines and major mountain ranges. The East (and South) of Middle-earth, beyond the main published maps, was only ever mapped in the "Ambarkanta," which was written in the 1930s and published in The Shaping of Middle-earth (HoME 4). Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A, "The Númenorean Kings", "Gondor and the Heirs of Anárion" 1944 when the Variags together with the Wainriders attacked Gondor, and later during the War of the Ring when they fought at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Khand was under the influence of Mordor and supplied it with horses, and twice came into the history of Gondor: first in T.A. King, "The Battle of the Pelennor Fields", p. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, The Return of the Hammond and Christina Scull (eds), The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion, entry Khand, p. Tolkien, "Unfinished index for The Lord of the Rings", in Wayne G. The Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers, "The Window on the West"įor more sources about Khand there are a few sources of information on Tolkien Gateway as well: Gondor's power, however, eclipsed that of Umbar as the Third Age progressed, and at one point, perhaps around the time of Tarannon Falastur, Umbar acknowledged the sway of Gondor. There is a list of far eastern lands in the Wikia.Īnother type of map I found was of Middle-earth and the Undying Lands.įor more sources about the information regarding Umbar Pretty much I believe when they talked about East they are talking about lands to the far east of Middle-earth, more specifically ones to the east of Mordor. "Variags" (men of Khand) fought for Sauron's army, but nothing aside from their name was mentioned. Almost nothing is known about Khand or its nomadic people. Khand was the name of a land which lay to the south-east of Mordor and to the east of Near Harad. The slave driven farms I'm pretty sure are the people from Khand who fought for in Sauron's army.Īn excerpt from the LotR Wikia about Khand: The Corsairs of Umbar are a nation of Men, or corrupted Númenóreans, in Middle-earth known for their piracy of ships along the coasts of Gondor. The pirates you're talking about are the Corsairs of Umbar. There are plenty of maps of Middle Earth.
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